Welcome to Deep Spinach! 

Deep Spinach is a curious dive into the science, spirit, and mystery of our world.  Born from the roots of our original podcast, S.M.T., Deep Spinach continues our mission to explore the strange with open minds and grounded inquiry.  

From UFO research with astrophysicist Avi Loeb and S.E.T.I.'s Seth Shostak, to the quiet intelligence of plants and the social realities of modern life - we go deep into the spinach of things.  Each episode unpacks what hides beneath the surface: paranormal phenomena, human stories, and the science that ties them together. Join us as we dive into the Spinach of things.